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@untrusem will be giving a talk on his contribtions to @prav at #LucknowFOSS

"In this Lighting talk, I will share my little journey on contributing to #Prav, which is a free software. This talk will mostly be centered toward students. I will tell how I contributed to the project as a Non-Cs Student and How can they too regardless of their Background.

This Talk will also inform attendees about #XMPP and #federation."

fossunited.org/c/lucknow/2025/

#FreeSoftware #OpenSource #FOSS

@jgoerzen

I agree and I would not even say, that my preferred solutions (mainly #Jabber or other federated systems) would be more secure for the threat models Signal tries to counter.

But, of course I can't recommend Signal to my family or to my friends, because they would not be able to reach me then and would wonder why I don't eat my own cat food 🙂

However, esp. with #Quicksy (which has an Indian variant now, called #Prav), I'ld say it's equally easy to get even non-tech people on board.

The story behind finalizing #Prav #Cooperative bye-laws!

The Prav Cooperative, though unregistered, already opens up several doors for us. Besides letting us manage our own funds, the first of these would be allowing us to sign up to an Indian SMS gateway, thereby reducing our message sending fees by 90%! Being formally recognised also means we can hopefully register under our own name on the Google Play Store and other official sources, rather than having to piggyback.

prav.app/blog/finalising-our-b

Finalising our bye-lawsprav.app

@janvlug The same way, not every user will have to modify #FreeSoftware to benefit from right to modify.

Why should we accept the monopoly of a single organization to make changes on the server ? Especially those of us in the Free Software community who understand Free Software includes the right to modify.

When we can have both a simplified option for masses (#Quicksy and #Prav) AND choices for people who need (Monocles Chat, Snikket, Monal etc), then why give up on choices ? #xmpp

@janvlug We already improved #Quicksy with #Prav for SMS delivery. In countries like Nepal and Brazil, Quicksy SMS was not working. We changed our SMS provider in Prav and Prav SMS works in these countries.

So even if every person can't modify the server, as a collective, we can change the server too. For users this comes as choices. Both Quicksy and Prav are hosted and operated from outside US. So people get a choice of laws applicable to the service as well.

@janvlug #Signal is better than #WhatsApp, but still centralized. The entire world depending on a Single organization is not very sustainable. We have Quicksy and Prav both giving the same convenience of Signal without lock-in. #Quicksy and #Prav users can talk to each other and to any other #XMPP app.

To actually practice the freedom to improve a software, we should be able to self host the server part (not necessarily each person has to self host, but that option can offer real choice).

durare.org community is divided in the ongoing poll - whether to allow direct integration with #Prav app.

If the proposal passes, people who cannot pay for prav.app account will get an option to create a durare.org account.

durare.org accounts are now created manually on request. We could automate that for people verifying their phone number.

codema.in/d/m7FIhH2i/provide-p

We will try to address the concerns of those who disagree and hope to bring them onboard as well.

#xmpp #community #democracy

I presented #Prav today at #BiharFOSS. The interactive demo suggested by @libreinator and @badrihippo was simple for newbies to understand and made the talk interactive.

The idea was to get two volunteers from the audience, one having #WhatsApp and the other using #Telegram, followed by asking them to send a text from WhatsApp to Telegram. After this, get a volunteer with non-Airtel number to send an SMS to me (as I use Airtel), illustrating federation nicely.

#XMPP #FreeSoftware #OpenSource

We have the very first screenshots of #Prav iOS app! Thanks to Vaidik who made it and also thanks to #Monal developers for releasing Monal as #FreeSoftware

opencollective.com/prav-ios/up

We identified iOS app as a priority for Prav community through a poll and then raised funds to build the app via Open Collective. opencollective.com/prav-ios

This is a new model we are experimenting with Prav - individuals collectively setting priority instead of developers, business or govts.

@bshankar I wanted to comment on your blog post bshankar.pages.dev/getting-fam (saw it on fsci group)

#Quicksy would have been the simpler option for most people. But unfortunately Quicksy is mostly driven by a single person from Germany and mass adoption and publicity seem to be not a priority for them. So we are trying to promote the idea of Quicksy through a cooperative run project called @prav You are welcome to join this effort to take the idea Quicksy to the masses.

#xmpp #FreeSoftware #Prav

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